Posts by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho

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What is the latest trend in jw land

by bola in

jw
friends

i want to know the latest trend in jw land.

after i have disassociated from jw land last year, now my father has forced me to write a reinstatement letter.

and i will soon be reinstated back very soon because those cult elders will meet with me.

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Did you hand over your hostage letter for reinstatement like this:

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we all know of the well used scripture that speaks of "a three-fold cord" in marriage.. sure, it is meant to indicate that any marriage that has "god" in it as the foundation of the couple's life will be successful.

but how often have we noticed that what it really means for witnesses is that the society, or the gb has the right to be an unwelcome and nosey intruder in the lives of couples.

every decision that family unit makes is influenced by the organisation.

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A Witness girlfriend of mine just got married. In the lead up to her marriage, she was sure to sit with her elders and ask them if she and her soon-to-be husband were "allowed" to go down on each other. I hit the roof when she told me. I screamed that it is BEYOND abnormal and inappropriate to divulge and seek that kind of "approval" from the elders. In what world is it okay for a thirty year old woman to implore a bunch of older men for advice on oral sex?! She dismissed my horror with, "oh, my elders are cool. They're good, babe. We're real close like that." About as close as the elders' NWTs were to their crotches when she asked.

In the WT cult, all sense of normalcy and appropriate boundaries have vanished.

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JW Elder fired from bank for privacy violation regarding fellow JW employee

by Zoos in

"thou shalt spy on and report your brothers and sisters to hq.".

https://www.tv6tnt.com/news/local/industrial-court-finds-there-are-limits-to-freedom-of-religion/article_5a485b94-a327-11e7-9c32-57b15184bc6a.html.

editor's note: due to the nature of this story we've changed the names of the parties involved.

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He "copied the information onto an external storage device." Of course he did. For, um... research purposes.

Invasive creep.

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JW Stumper Questions - List You Best Here

by pale.emperor in

hi guys.

sooner or later we're going to get a jw knocking on our door.

just like when we were jw's doing the knocking, it's good to have a question prepared to get them thinking about their own beliefs.

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Prepare yourself for the same old, standard rhetoric: "We are not here to get into debates...". Of course you're not. You're here to preach AT. Funny how when folks at the door ask push-over questions like, "there can't be a God, otherwise why would he allow suffering?" or "I was taught we'd go to Hell for sinning" that the Witnesses are ready to engage in what they'd describe as a "conversation". But as soon as it's a thought-provoking question such as the ones listed above, it's suddenly a "debate" to be avoided like the plague.

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New light!.....DFed without being DFed

by Tight Pants Twinkle Toes in

it now appears that the wt can df you just by marking you.

this happened to my me and my wife a few week ago.

a marking talk was given at the mid-week meeting in which no names were mentioned yet a detailed description of the "offending bastards" was delivered so that there as no doubt who this "pond scum" might be.

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Paging @stuckinarut2... he and his wife are privy to this New Shite, also.

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Thesis on Shunning within Jehovah Witnesses

by keinlezard in

hello, .

juliagutgsell publish her thesis i'm reading it , and found it interresting .

https://vub.academia.edu/juliagutgsell.

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marriage"equality" survey, Australia.

by zeb in

jw
friends

the australian govt has set out a survey to see if people are in favour of changing the marriage act to include same sex couples.. hm here have received their papers?

the survey promises to be anonymous but has a substantial bar code at the bottom... anonymous yeah right.. the marriage act once said "two people" then a previous prime minister changed it to say "man and woman" all that is needed to amend this situation as required by the gay community is change it back again to "two people" there, done and dusted.. and millions of dollars need not be wasted on this survey which is not compulsory as is voting in australia.

can anyone here who still goes to kh tell us if this has had a ruling from the platform?.

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@shepherdless Actually, this year I DID get fined - AND penalized additionally - for not voting. Apparently when I submitted my "Christian neutrality" reason back when the election first came knocking, it got knocked back. And I wasn't alerted. Instead I got hit with the first late fee penalty. So I wrote my appeal (despite having since awakened from when I first wrote in my reasons for not voting). Aaaaaand I found out it got knocked back AGAIN. Maybe my apostasy came through in my handwriting? I called up the State Debt Recovery and my options were: a) pay the fine + penalty and pay an additional fee to take the matter to court to try and lift the fine payment, or b) pay the fine + penalty. I chose b.

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Thesis on Shunning within Jehovah Witnesses

by keinlezard in

hello, .

juliagutgsell publish her thesis i'm reading it , and found it interresting .

https://vub.academia.edu/juliagutgsell.

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I know the thesis is on how former Jehovah's Witnesses do NOT appreciate the ex-communication as a "loving provision", except... the "loving provision" is meant to be extended only to the congregation. So gross, I know. When I first started waking up after the shunning video shown at the Remain Loyal convention, I bucked against the propaganda spewed forth and was vocal about it (I had no idea that I was an apostate back then, so I had this pleasant assumption that I was free to discuss my qualms about things). Well. My elders were swiftly informed about my dissent (which I had confided to a sister I trusted who promised to "help me" between the two of us) and met with me. They sternly parroted the same old stupid sales pitch that "this is a LOVING provision from Jehovah." Then one of the elders ad-libbed a little and told me how amazing this arrangement was.

"Just think how protective the disfellowshipping arrangement is for Jehovah's organization. We can take our children to any gatherings among us and not be worried about them hearing a swear word. Or have someone smoking at that gathering. Or dealing with the drunkenness of those who have been granted access to our wholesome fellowship."

I nearly died. Really? If your children are that easily "damaged" by hearing a cuss word, experiencing second-hand smoke (which, by law, would have to occur in the outdoors where there's open space to move elsewhere) or seeing someone perhaps drink a little too much - then F*CK ME. Your precious ~~Rod and Todd Flanders~~ Caleb and Sophia clones will be the most easily offended, stumbled, intolerant, judgmental, sheltered and fearful people lacking RESILIENCE when they grow up - a cocktail of traits that are NOT conducive to positive mental health.

Disfellowshipping and "cleansing" the organization with OCD fervor is mentally DAMAGING provision for both those on the inside, AND those on the outside.

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marriage"equality" survey, Australia.

by zeb in

jw
friends

the australian govt has set out a survey to see if people are in favour of changing the marriage act to include same sex couples.. hm here have received their papers?

the survey promises to be anonymous but has a substantial bar code at the bottom... anonymous yeah right.. the marriage act once said "two people" then a previous prime minister changed it to say "man and woman" all that is needed to amend this situation as required by the gay community is change it back again to "two people" there, done and dusted.. and millions of dollars need not be wasted on this survey which is not compulsory as is voting in australia.

can anyone here who still goes to kh tell us if this has had a ruling from the platform?.

Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho

@shepherdless I voted "YES" to equality and I'm not on the electoral roll (to my knowledge). Anyone with that flyer could have ticked an option and posted it in the reply-paid envelope supplied.

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Quotes where Watchtower claims inspiration

by krismalone in

http://www.eaec.org/cults/jw/jw5.htm.

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This is rich, coming from a leadership that has proved themselves fickle, dishonest, hypocritical, reckless, and above all "prone to human ERROR":

"At that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from Jehovah's Organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint -" Let me just interject here. If it's not from a human standpoint, then whose standpoint is it from? The heavens? I thought these guys don't get divine inspiration. "- All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear SOUND FROM A PRACTICAL AND STRATEGIC HUMAN STANDPOINT OR NOT." -WT, November 15, 2013.

This is pure Guyanese grooming.